Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/13/2006 04:00 PM House FINANCE


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04:14:00 PM Start
04:52:22 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation by Commissioner McKie TELECONFERENCED
Campbell, Department of Fish and Game
"Funding Fish and Game Management:
A Wise Investment in Alaska's Future"
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 13, 2006                                                                                           
                         4:14 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Meyer called the House Finance Committee meeting to                                                                   
 order at 4:14:00 PM.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                           
 Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                        
 Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                  
 Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                     
 Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Jim Holm                                                                                                        
 Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                    
 Representative Beth Kerttula                                                                                                   
 Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                      
 Representative Bruce Weyhrauch                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 McKie Campbell, Commissioner, Department of Fish and Game                                                                      
 (ADF&G)                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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 GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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              Funding Fish and Game Management:                                                                               
            A Wise Investment in Alaska's Future                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes                                                                     
and handouts will be on file with the House Finance                                                                             
Committee through the 24th Legislative Session, contact 465-                                                                    
6814. After the 24th Legislative Session they will be                                                                           
available through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 TIME        SPEAKER        DISCUSSION                                                                                      
 4:14:43 PM McKie           Referred to slides throughout his                                                                 
             Campbell,      presentation (copy on file.) He spoke                                                               
             Commissioner,  of  ADF&G's  mission.   He referred  to                                                             
             Department  of fish  and   wildlife as   the  soul  of                                                           
            Fish  and  Game Alaska.    He  listed  the  many  ways                                                              
            (ADF&G)         Alaskans enjoy opportunities and access                                                             
                            to their living resources.                                                                        
4:16:20 PM  Commissioner    Noted   the   principal  reason   many                                                            
            Campbell        employees live in Alaska.  He pointed                                                               
                            out that  fish and  wildlife resources                                                              
                            contribute greatly to the economy, and                                                              
                            provide more jobs than any other sector                                                             
                           in Alaska.                                                                                         
4:18:43 PM  Commissioner    Discussed  how   the  fish   and  game                                                            
            Campbell        investment has performed.  He mentioned                                                             
                            that   the   investment  has   rebuilt                                                              
                            decimated commercial salmon fisheries.                                                            
4:20:02 PM  Commissioner    Highlighted the  economic  benefits to                                                            
            Campbell        the state by commercial fisheries.                                                                  
                            Local    governments   benefit    from                                                              
                            fisheries-related monies.                                                                         
4:21:20 PM  Commissioner    Shared   economic    statistics   from                                                            
                            commercial fisheries.  He related that                                                              
                            the investment supports sport fishing,                                                              
                            which generates dollars for the state.                                                            
4:23:03 PM  Commissioner    Responded   to    a    question   from                                                            
            Campbell        Representative Stoltze.  He replied                                                                 
                            that he  believes  that  sport fishing                                                              
                            makes  up  less  than  10  percent  of                                                              
                            fisheries-related income for the state.                                                             
                            He said he  would check further on the                                                              
                            matter.                                                                                           
4:25:03 PM  Commissioner    Discussed the economic benefits to the                                                            
            Campbell        state from hunting.  He related                                                                     
                            subsistence     harvesting    economic                                                              
                            benefits to the state.                                                                            
4:26:56 PM  Commissioner    Shared  that   wildlife  watching  and                                                            
            Campbell        fishing are central to the Alaska                                                                   
                            tourism marketing.   Wildlife watching                                                              
                            provides a  large economic  benefit in                                                              
                            the form of jobs and fees.                                                                        
4:28:05 PM  Commissioner    Highlighted a  case  study  in  Frazer                                                            
            Campbell        Lake, where small investments yielded                                                               
                            high returns  regarding a  salmon weir                                                              
                            operation.    For   a  $50,000  annual                                                              
                            investment, a $2.1  million return was                                                              
                            achieved  from  subsistence,  hunting,                                                              
                            bear  viewing,   sport   fishing,  and                                                              
                            commercial fishing.                                                                               
4:33:22 PM  Commissioner    Shared   FY    06   funding   sources:                                                            
            Campbell        approximately 40 percent were federal                                                               
                            funds  and  about 22  percent  general                                                              
                            funds.   He pointed  out the  risks of                                                              
                            relying on federal funding.                                                                       
4:36:09 PM  Commissioner    Stated a belief that fish and wildlife                                                            
            Campbell        resources are a wise investment.  For                                                               
                            every dollar  invested in  the budget,                                                            
                            about $35 returns to Alaska's economy.                                                            
 4:38:40 PM Representative Suggested putting more trapping photos                                                             
             Kelly          in the slide presentation.  He asked                                                                
                            about   the   general   fund   portion.                                                             
                            Commissioner   Campbell  replied   that                                                             
                            $33.8 million is from general funds and                                                             
                            federal funding is 40 percent.                                                                    
 4:39:45 PM Representative Asked for more information regarding                                                               
             Kelly          designated    funds.       Commissioner                                                             
                            Campbell  referred Representative Kelly                                                             
                            to  the web  page.   He  said the  $156                                                             
                            million  contains the $4.2  million EVO                                                             
                            funds.                                                                                            
 4:40:38 PM Representative Asked about the current status of                                                                  
             Stoltze        halibut IFQ's.  Commissioner Campbell                                                               
                            replied   that    the   North   Pacific                                                             
                            Management Council  voted down the  IFQ                                                             
                            plan  for  charter boat  halibut.   The                                                             
                            National  Marine   Fisheries  had  been                                                             
                            sitting on it for about six years.  The                                                             
                            Magnuson Act  requires any such fishery                                                             
                            to reflect present participation in the                                                             
                            fishery.  The feeling was that the plan                                                             
                            was illegal and would be overturned.  A                                                             
                            stakeholders' group made up  of charter                                                             
                            operators,  commercial  operators,  and                                                             
                            subsistence  groups was  formed.   They                                                             
                            are  looking at two  alternatives: IFQ-                                                             
                            based  plan and a percentage plan.   In                                                             
                            both  cases the charter  industry needs                                                             
                            to grow.                                                                                          
 4:43:21 PM Representative Asked about a recent article about the                                                             
             Kelly          lack of sufficient funds in the                                                                     
                            predator        control       programs.                                                             
                            Commissioner Campbell replied that  the                                                             
                            department  believes in these  programs                                                             
                            and  supports those plans that have the                                                             
                            science   to  back   them  up.      The                                                             
                            department hopes to ask the legislature                                                             
                            for  a  hunting  license increase  next                                                             
                            session  to  cover some  of the  needed                                                             
                            funds.                                                                                            
 4:45:48 PM Representative Asked if public sector use is being                                                                
             Kelly          maximized.      Commissioner   Campbell                                                             
                            responded  that cost is  a problem  and                                                             
                            farming   it   out  attracts   national                                                             
                           attention.                                                                                         
 4:48:00 PM Representative Asked if regulation would be better                                                                
             Kelly          than law.  Commissioner Campbell                                                                    
                            replied   that    Department  of    Law                                                             
                            recommends no  changes right now.   The                                                             
                            main  threat to the  program is from  a                                                             
                            Federal  Airborne  Hunting  Act  rather                                                           
                            than  state law.    He  concluded that                                                              
                            there would  be no  break in programs.                                                              
                            Representative  Kelly  asked   if  the                                                              
                            legislature  should  become  involved.                                                              
                            Commissioner Campbell said he would let                                                             
                            them know when appropriate.                                                                       
4:50:09 PM Co-Chair Meyer  Inquired    how   out-of-state  hunting                                                            
                            licenses  compare with  other  states.                                                              
                            Commissioner  Campbell   replied  that                                                              
                            Alaska is a little higher than average.                                                             
                            He  noted the  proportionality between                                                              
                            resident and  non-resident  fees as  a                                                              
                            consideration.  A non-resident only fee                                                             
                            was considered.  A  hunting license in                                                              
                            Alaska is a great bargain.                                                                        
4:52:22 PM Representative Asked how many of the licenses sold are                                                             
            Stoltze         full-fare.      Commissioner  Campbell                                                              
                            replied he would get that information.                                                            
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting                                                                                                                     
was                                                                                                                             
adjourned                                                                                                                       
at 4:53 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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